The Implosion Of Aha, Time is running out Options

[gessepi]

This year is a critical year to this association.

1. Sport Horse Nationals, Youth Nationals and and Canadian Nationals will all lose money
2. The US Nationals is the key economically for the budget. It will not do as well as expected.
3. The US National Show Commission is now running with 4 people, one of which has no experience. Could be disastrous. Cindy Clinton has turned them down to go back on the Commission.
4. The Board is in search of a Judges Commissioner and im told the 2 people I mentioned as the prime candidates don't want the job. So who is it gonna be?
5. Foal Registrations will be down again. How much is a major key.
6. Endorsing Horse Slaughter is disastrous. Membership will drop.
7. The Modern Day arabian horse is losing over $200,000 a year.

You have any other reasons, just list them.

[gessepi]

The future for this Association is heading towards a PAT Group takeover, thru the collapse of this association.

[gessepi]

The implosion is due to a bad Structure as to how this Association is run. Well intentioned people, with no power and the power they exercise thru the collective stupidity has run its course. Hampered by peoples own self interests.

[HFS]

The convenient resolution of the WAHO impasse and the termination of PAHR now makes even more sense, eh?

[GeorgiaM]

Cindy Clinton has turned them down to go back on the Commission.

BRAVO Cindy. Don't you DARE go back to them. I absolutely LOVE what you have done for the Arabian horse & for us owners. If you ever cave and go back because you want things at the show to be special for the horses & for us, you have to realize that it will just allow them to continue to use and abuse the few people who's hearts and minds are TRULY what is running and supporting the association. NO ONE will be motivated to even ask for changes as long as the silent few slave their *sses off behind the scenes. People need to realize who really has the best interest of the breed, and who is simply playing politics and advancing motives that do NOT help the breed. When I took my horse to Nationals, it was YOU and people like you who made it such a special experience - and you going back and keeping the status quo is just not sustainable. I hope you know that for any major change in history, there had to be enough dissolutionment and discontentment with the existing system to cause people to want change for the better. In this case, NOT working for the Arabian horse is the best solution to get change for the better.
You rock - hold firm!

[Blue Domino]

AHA is gonna be in a bad way soon. Us baby boomers are getting old enough to start thinking about not raising any more foals.

If we just give the ones we've got a home for life, we'll have horses into our 70's and 80's if we live that long.

To raise new foals, we've got to think about who's gonna take care of them when we're gone and they're still here.

Of course there's always the option to sell, but finding a buyer these days isn't easy. Young people seem more interested in other things than horses.


Maybe that's why AHA came out in support of slaughter, they'd like us to just send it to slaughter if we can't sell it, so we'd have room to breed another one. Corporate profit thinking.


Jeff

[gessepi]

AHA is gonna be in a bad way soon. Us baby boomers are getting old enough to start thinking about not raising any more foals.

If we just give the ones we've got a home for life, we'll have horses into our 70's and 80's if we live that long.

To raise new foals, we've got to think about who's gonna take care of them when we're gone and they're still here.

Of course there's always the option to sell, but finding a buyer these days isn't easy. Young people seem more interested in other things than horses.
Maybe that's why AHA came out in support of slaughter, they'd like us to just send it to slaughter if we can't sell it, so we'd have room to breed another one. Corporate profit thinking.
Jeff

I think their reasoning for coming out for horse slaughter was misguided concern.

[Aequus17]

Pretty scary to think of what is going to go on in Tulsa this fall. Just imagine that " delightful" place with lack of management.

[farmbabe]

This year is a critical year to this association.

1. Sport Horse Nationals, Youth Nationals and and Canadian Nationals will all lose money
2. The US Nationals is the key economically for the budget. It will not do as well as expected.
3. The US National Show Commission is now running with 4 people, one of which has no experience. Could be disastrous. Cindy Clinton has turned them down to go back on the Commission.
4. The Board is in search of a Judges Commissioner and im told the 2 people I mentioned as the prime candidates don't want the job. So who is it gonna be?
5. Foal Registrations will be down again. How much is a major key.
6. Endorsing Horse Slaughter is disastrous. Membership will drop.
7. The Modern Day arabian horse is losing over $200,000 a year.

You have any other reasons, just list them.

you forgot-
rear ends ( or lack there of)
aladdin breeding
the fall of the great and wonderful 80's

[gessepi]

you forgot-
rear ends ( or lack there of)
aladdin breeding
the fall of the great and wonderful 80's

Thanks for another one of your profound posts.

[AA Wish]

you forgot-
rear ends ( or lack there of)
aladdin breeding
the fall of the great and wonderful 80's

Hardly Aladdinn's fault...you could add a bunch of horses to this list as well...

No, the real fault lies in lack of faith in the leadership. When the membership feels that the leadership (in all levels) is serving their own pocket books instead of the arabian horse ...well something is bound to suffer.

Good leaders have a way of doing the right thing for the right reason........................

[HFS]

Well, if nothing else, this may lend impetus to open election of the officers, rather than limit that to those delegates who actually attend Convention.

[FiveBays]

G,

What do you think a PAT take over would look like? Would it be just a registry?

Also, I'm wondering how some other breed associations are doing? Is AHA the only one in bas shape?

Dave

The future for this Association is heading towards a PAT Group takeover, thru the collapse of this association.

[gessepi]

G,

What do you think a PAT take over would look like? Would it be just a registry?

Also, I'm wondering how some other breed associations are doing? Is AHA the only one in bas shape?

Dave

Dave: I have been hammering for quite some time about how this assoication has to cater to its revenue base. That revenue base happens to be the AHA Main ring Show Circuit. They provide the profit for this assoication to stay afloat. I have stated that these other Entities that are not providing a profit base and actually provide a loss, need to be stopped. Ie: sPORT HORSE NATIONALS, YOUTH NATIONALS, CANADIAN NATIONALS.

All new resolutions brought before convention are supposed to have a financial impact study done on them, so that any new resolution does not provide a negative effect to the bottom line. Please explain just how much longer this BOD is gonna continue to ignor the fact that the above 3 entities are doing just that and it needs to stop.

You cannot continue to ignor these facts and continue to go in the wrong direction and hope that your main revenue source continues providing that revenue.

The day of reckoning is coming.

Now the PAT group if it ends up being the steward of our breed will be a close nit group and all we can hope for is that they have the intelligence and desire to be good stewards of this breed. The concept of a group like this makes sense its whether the people in control are the right ones.

I can tell you what the PAT group would do upon taking over this breed, would be to stop the negative outflow from non profitable entities ive listed. It will be leaner and meaner. It won't be a feeding trough for every Tom Dick and Harry's program.

[gessepi]

See Dave its no different than Government. Once a program is in it can't be removed. Nobody wants to tackle the facts about the Sport Horse,Youth and Canadian Nationals. Not popular.

[HFS]

Yeah, but they'd dump every penny they could get their hands on into the Gallery. There was an effort to shove the Gallery into the Foundation, but that didn't fly. I don't have a clue what would happen to the Foundation were there to be a major structural overhaul.

[gessepi]

Yeah, but they'd dump every penny they could get their hands on into the Gallery. There was an effort to shove the Gallery into the Foundation, but that didn't fly. I don't have a clue what would happen to the Foundation were there to be a major structural overhaul.

Heh the PAT group has to sit there and watch their revenue stream go down the toilet while this BOD does nothing about it. What they would get back, may not be worth getting back. Might turn out to be a bad deal for both parties.

They tried to make changes, but got rebuffed everytime and then Pike and Fauls resigned and let their representatives play the BOD game.

[gessepi]

One needs to ask just how the fund raising for the Structure at Kentucky Horse Park is going? There's another noose that could haunt us.

[gessepi]

Has anybody on that Board asked when the promotion money we used to help fund that Building is coming back, now that they sold that building? Remember how the promotion money was gonna be put back when the building sold?

[gessepi]

Well im told that the costs of that building have now risen to be between 8.5 and 10 million. How much the Pat group has raised nobody knows. They don't share that information with AHA.

The interesting thing is that when the building is done it will be owned by Kentucky Horse Park and the Arabian industry gets a section in it to put our artifacts, with no upkeep costs.

The question arises, what happens if the PAT group is not able to meet the obligations of the costs of this building.?

Talk about potential black eyes.

Im told that AHA is not obligated to any of these costs. The pat group tried to get AHA OBLIGATED BUT THE BOARD WOULDNT DO IT.