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May 3 2010, 06:12 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 1,332 Joined: 23-April 05 From: Central, NY Member No.: 298 |
Tell me again about the new technologies for drilling. Tell me again how safe it is. Tell be again how quick we can respond to a problem, should one occur. Tell the fisherman who depend on the sea for a living that the oil companies will protect them. Tell me again how much money oil companies have made and how they are investing in new safe drilling.
When you are done, watch the news --Drill Baby Drill. Bruce -------------------- Watching Hawk Arabians
Home of: ZEGAS - *Ganges x Zabrynka Watchinghawkarabians.com |
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May 3 2010, 06:57 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 6-June 06 From: Bay Minette, AL Member No.: 2,386 |
Thanks Bruce! I just heard they closed the Gulf to commercial and recreational fishing yesterday...You can believe if there was any fresh seafood it got ate in Mobile, AL this past weekend. It's feeling pretty sad right now because none of the fixes are quick and the booms they are putting out are a waste. There are billions of dollars of tourism amenities that will really get hit also. I was hearing about one guy that had his beach house booked all summer and everybody was backing out of renting it.
I would advise everyone to start shopping for a fuel efficient car because when the lawyers get through with all this everyone will be paying more for gas, because the lawsuits will keep on rolling down from BP to all the suppliers and contractors that will ultimately affect every oil company. -------------------- Robin W.
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May 3 2010, 07:21 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Gold Sponsors Posts: 3,494 Joined: 25-March 05 Member No.: 4 |
If you drive any vehicle, mow your lawn, fly in a plane, etc. etc. does that make one a hypocrite?
Catastrophes happen and will again but this world will not stop its desire for oil so taking an alarmist view point seems hypocritical. BP will be responsible but what about Obama? Is this his Katrina? I already know the responses to come but I just thought I would liven them up before the anti oil well hugger's take over. Larry PS for solution, Fix the problem and move on and drill, obviously responsibly so were not dependant on foreign oil. -------------------- "Truth is more important than Facts"
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May 3 2010, 07:55 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,540 Joined: 21-April 05 From: Social Circle Georgia Member No.: 275 |
If you drive any vehicle, mow your lawn, fly in a plane, etc. etc. does that make one a hypocrite? Catastrophes happen and will again but this world will not stop its desire for oil so taking an alarmist view point seems hypocritical. BP will be responsible but what about Obama? Is this his Katrina? I already know the responses to come but I just thought I would liven them up before the anti oil well hugger's take over. Larry PS for solution, Fix the problem and move on and drill, obviously responsibly so were not dependant on foreign oil. I am with Larry on this one. We need to become self sufficient when it comes to oil and quit depending on the Middle East. This was a terrible accident but should not deter us from drilling. -------------------- Cindy Beall...retired and LOVING IT!
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May 3 2010, 03:39 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,825 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 245 |
I am with Larry on this one. We need to become self sufficient when it comes to oil and quit depending on the Middle East. I think we all agree that we should not be dependent on middle east oil. The disagreement comes when we try to figure out how to get our own sources of power. |
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May 3 2010, 03:40 PM
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May 4 2010, 01:58 PM
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Check this out, www.al.com. There is an article about the lack of fire booms used to burn off oil spills. The feds didn't have any fire booms eventhough this was part of their containment plains.
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May 4 2010, 02:38 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 476 Joined: 11-June 09 Member No.: 22,361 |
I agree that this is a terrible disaster and we need to learn from this however I think we still need to drill. Cars actually don't account for that much of our oil use. Plus, it is also used to make many other products- not related to energy- such as plastics. Plus, this admin. has kicked around $5/ gal gas as their target (inc. federal taxes etc) what will that do to the cost of food and other necessities.
-------------------- Windridge
Mister Magnum+ 2010 Regional, Scottsdale and Canadian National Champion Dually Noted+++/ multiple Regional Champion and SHN Top 10 WR Mega Rock++/ multiple Regional Champion AWA Glorious+/ multiple Regional Champion and SHN Top 10 Justadance+ Regional Champion and Canadian National Top 10 Shaddo of Love SHN Top 10 WR Shaddo Hawk CA Lailah |
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May 4 2010, 10:23 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 7,596 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Aubrey, Texas Member No.: 563 |
We have over 3500 off shore rigs in the Gulf alone. This was a tragic incident which fortunately is very rare.
Stopping off shore drilling because of a blown out well, is like stopping flying because a plane crashed. Oil exploration and recovery has been growing safer and more enviornmentally neutral all of the time. This unfortunate incident will lead to further safe guards and mechanisms to deal with accidents when they happen. We need all the domestic energy we can find and we should not let irrational fears and over blown enviornmental impacts keep us from getting it. -------------------- Dick Reed
Toskhara Arabians 7429 Grubbs Road Aubrey, Texas 76227 |
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May 5 2010, 02:29 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,546 Joined: 6-April 05 From: 20 miles east of Sacramento, California Member No.: 153 |
Irrational fears is right. Schwarzenegger is nuts. What no one seems to be asking is how htis was caused and whether or not it iwas sabotage.
-------------------- "Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States." Ronald Reagan
"I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress!" Ronald Reagan "We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone!" Ronald Reagan "Government does not create wealth. The major role for the govenment is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States." G.W. Bush Caelliotts Magic, Mrs. Gari Dill-Marlow Fair Oaks, California |
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Jun 17 2010, 03:24 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 3,664 Joined: 22-April 05 From: California Member No.: 287 |
I want to know one thing, did BP have any idea the vast quantity of oil in this well?
I mean this thing has spewed out millions of barrels of oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did BP have any idea what a huge find this was before they went cheap skate on the well casing and safety precautions? I mean, considering the hundreds of millions and billions of dollars to be made off this well in it's lifetime, then extra cost of the extra concrete to secure the well should have been a minor capital outlay, considering the riches to be had from the well. I'm sure BP wouldn't have been so cavalier about a well next to the English coast, they probably wouldn't have fouled their own home. Apparently, they have no qualms taking a crap on the U.S.A. with their poor safety record to boot, they apparently aren't to concerned with taking the lives of Americans working on their wells. They killed 11 men with their safety breach. This is tantamount to a British attack on the United States. I don't doubt this well wasn't sabotage to stop drilling off shore in the U.S.A. Because we've been lied to. They lie and tell us we're out of oil in the U.S.A. But this gusher is spewing millions of barrels. They don't want us to be energy independent. They don't want us drilling on the coast. Drill baby Drill!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's drill new wells all over the place, and prohibit BP from participating. Obama loves this leaking off the coast, he considers it a political bananza to be able to stop drilling, and implement his green cap and trade lefitst B.S. Traitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------- "The modern democrat is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for stealing from his/her neighbor." Ronald Reagan
"We who in friendship, willing work together" On this premise alone, rests the upward spiral of civilisation. Good will towards mankind |
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Jun 17 2010, 03:30 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 3,664 Joined: 22-April 05 From: California Member No.: 287 |
Tell me again about the new technologies for drilling. Tell me again how safe it is. Tell be again how quick we can respond to a problem, should one occur. Tell the fisherman who depend on the sea for a living that the oil companies will protect them. Tell me again how much money oil companies have made and how they are investing in new safe drilling. When you are done, watch the news --Drill Baby Drill. Bruce You damned right we should keep drilling, and an oil spill shouldn't keep us from drilling any more than traffic accidents should prompt the outlaw of the automobile. If this blow-up and spill was sabotage, which I believe it was, then the saboteurs were counting on idiots just like you to start screaming: STOP DRILLING. Jeff -------------------- "The modern democrat is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for stealing from his/her neighbor." Ronald Reagan
"We who in friendship, willing work together" On this premise alone, rests the upward spiral of civilisation. Good will towards mankind |
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Jun 17 2010, 09:17 PM
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Obama loves this leaking off the coast, he considers it a political bananza to be able to stop drilling, and implement his green cap and trade lefitst B.S. Traitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's ridiculous...lol. how do you know he loves it? it's your opinion and a pretty bizarre one. I knew when Obama agreed to offshore drilling that it would come back to bite him.....just not this way. -------------------- Brad Loomis
From the Simpsons: " I don't judge Homer and Marge. That's for a vengeful God to do." |
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Jun 17 2010, 10:40 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 3,664 Joined: 22-April 05 From: California Member No.: 287 |
considering his tepid response, I don't think it's a bit ridiculous.
He's in way over his head and should just resign, him and the old geezer both. Pelosi could do better job than OBiden. She's next in line. The old B#$%^ has got some fight in her anyway, she'd a nagged BP to death and they'd have stopped the leak by now. -------------------- "The modern democrat is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for stealing from his/her neighbor." Ronald Reagan
"We who in friendship, willing work together" On this premise alone, rests the upward spiral of civilisation. Good will towards mankind |
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Jun 17 2010, 10:43 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 3,664 Joined: 22-April 05 From: California Member No.: 287 |
If I lived on the gulf coast, I'd be down at the beach with 5 gallon buckets and a big
tank on the back of my pick-up truck, loading up that free crude and taking it home and making my own bootleg gasoline and diesel in the backyard still. Get a lemon, make some lemonaide If it was gold bars sitting on the bottom of the ocean, people would be killing themselves diving down trying to get it. They'v got black gold floating in their front yard. All they have to do is go get it. -------------------- "The modern democrat is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for stealing from his/her neighbor." Ronald Reagan
"We who in friendship, willing work together" On this premise alone, rests the upward spiral of civilisation. Good will towards mankind |
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Jun 18 2010, 06:30 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 499 Joined: 25-March 08 From: Princeton, Texas Member No.: 12,375 |
No other country is halting drilling in the Gulf. To the contrary, Brazil is increasing their drilling in the area because of the spill expecting an economic windfall as a result.
But then, no other country has the EPA to deal with. The most interesting question not being asked......how did this well pass the safety inspections of our feds? A second interesting question......with the myriad of hearings in congress, they all are interviewing the BP CEO, but none of the chairmen of these inquiries are asking for the safety inspector to appear before them to answer questions. Isn't the purpose of regulation of wells to identify these irregularities. What the hell are we paying these people for? Who ON OUR TEAM didn't do their job? Where's the oil czar when you need him? -------------------- Dennis K Hixson
6064 FM 1377 Princeton, TX 75407 "Pretty ain't enough" |
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Jun 19 2010, 03:02 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 3,664 Joined: 22-April 05 From: California Member No.: 287 |
No other country is halting drilling in the Gulf. To the contrary, Brazil is increasing their drilling in the area because of the spill expecting an economic windfall as a result. But then, no other country has the EPA to deal with. The most interesting question not being asked......how did this well pass the safety inspections of our feds? A second interesting question......with the myriad of hearings in congress, they all are interviewing the BP CEO, but none of the chairmen of these inquiries are asking for the safety inspector to appear before them to answer questions. Isn't the purpose of regulation of wells to identify these irregularities. What the hell are we paying these people for? Who ON OUR TEAM didn't do their job? Where's the oil czar when you need him? Great Post!!!!!!!!!! -------------------- "The modern democrat is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for stealing from his/her neighbor." Ronald Reagan
"We who in friendship, willing work together" On this premise alone, rests the upward spiral of civilisation. Good will towards mankind |
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Jun 19 2010, 09:15 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 701 Joined: 14-January 07 Member No.: 4,459 |
No other country is halting drilling in the Gulf. To the contrary, Brazil is increasing their drilling in the area because of the spill expecting an economic windfall as a result. But then, no other country has the EPA to deal with. The most interesting question not being asked......how did this well pass the safety inspections of our feds? A second interesting question......with the myriad of hearings in congress, they all are interviewing the BP CEO, but none of the chairmen of these inquiries are asking for the safety inspector to appear before them to answer questions. Isn't the purpose of regulation of wells to identify these irregularities. What the hell are we paying these people for? Who ON OUR TEAM didn't do their job? Where's the oil czar when you need him? Great questions. -------------------- Brad Loomis
From the Simpsons: " I don't judge Homer and Marge. That's for a vengeful God to do." |
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Jun 20 2010, 08:28 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 6-June 06 From: Bay Minette, AL Member No.: 2,386 |
I live 40 miles from Gulf Shores, AL. I don't see it as a do or don't drill situation. This is about a change of a way of life for everyone on the Gulf Coast including myself because I don't eat Asian seafood. The water and beaches were the reason many were here. LA, MS and AL are among the poorest states in the nation and needed every tourist dollar those beaches provided and every job the seafood industry provided.
-------------------- Robin W.
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Jun 23 2010, 04:29 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Ablackhorse AHA Posts: 499 Joined: 25-March 08 From: Princeton, Texas Member No.: 12,375 |
The "pro-progressive socialist" lefdems argue that we already have socialism. But, they fail to acknowledge that like many things, too much, in the wrong hands can be lethal. The IRS and the EPA are perfect examples. The EPA when originated, accomplished some admittedly important issues and projects. Then, slowly but inevitably, they grew to a point where now the reasoning is if a little bit is good, then more must be better. Result ? The two largest and most powerful bureaucracies (sp?) are the IRS and the EPA. The IRS has one of the largest payrolls in government, and the EPA no longer needs congressional approval for its decisions. Robin's area of the U.S. is destined to become at best a tourist trap similar to the Virgin Islands. Funny T-shirts at 3 for ten dollars. (made in China, of course)
The EPA needs to be dismantled and the IRS needs a serious overhaul. Don't see it happening under this administration and congress! We'll never see a reduction in dependancy on foreign oil while this EPA exists. In fact, the main product and result of socialism is.......total dependancy on the government! -------------------- Dennis K Hixson
6064 FM 1377 Princeton, TX 75407 "Pretty ain't enough" |
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